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phlat65
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you need to find another dealer man!! there is NO difference between a Black Panther and a Street Moto except color!! That guy is smoking CRACK!! don't pay more than $6,000. You could have 1 shipped from elsewhere and still save money. I can get you dealer cost if you like.....
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Brian



Joined: 19 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup... what he said.... $ 6195.00 is suggested list. I can get you a red 2002 brand new reduced version baghira for $ 5400.00 plus shipping no tax ! $ 500.00 to ship it to you.... maybe ? The guy's Fucked....
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DEmark



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 8:31 am    Post subject: new baghiras $4400! Reply with quote

There are new 2003 Baghira Enduros on Ebay for $4400 plus shipping from Florida, you won't find a better deal than that.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a enduro thats a steal !! but remember you have to add $ 1000.00 for Behr rims and $ 300.00 for tires, I think the enduro has the big front roter.
one problem with the street motos is they use the same speedo set up for the small tire as they do the 21" thats why I think my speedo reads fast ??
my 2 bits Wink

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125SMash
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wonder why he disappeared all of a sudden..
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Brian



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we prolly bummed him out nice avatar smash Wink
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mham001



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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Brian"]I'm only concerned about getting body parts.....as for buying a bike they can keep the Honda/Kawi/Ktm.... they look like dirt bikes... our bikes are very classy looking... I considered the above three.... the only one that peeked my interest was the KTM its almost identical in weight and performance.... quote]

HUH? The KTM is waay lighter with way more horsies stock. Not even close. Compare the specs on their website. The KLR weighs 50 lbs less but about 10 less horses. I do agree the BP is way better looking.
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 9:39 pm    Post subject: Re: new baghiras $4400! Reply with quote

DEmark wrote:
There are new 2003 Baghira Enduros on Ebay for $4400 plus shipping from Florida, you won't find a better deal than that.


Be careful with that. You will have to pay tax when you get to DMV. Figure in shipping and that you'll have to set it up yourself and still won't have the 17s.
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sbaschn



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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2004 12:05 am    Post subject: Parts Reply with quote

The headquarters of MZ is in Daytona Beach, Florida ( at least for my area). I will try to get you guys some numbers. I spoke with the guy who sold me mine and getting parts is not really an issue for me at least. There is always a dealer somewhere. I have 2 dealers in jacksonville, FL. Perhaps I am lucky???
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2004 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="mham001"]
Brian wrote:
I'm only concerned about getting body parts.....as for buying a bike they can keep the Honda/Kawi/Ktm.... they look like dirt bikes... our bikes are very classy looking... I considered the above three.... the only one that peeked my interest was the KTM its almost identical in weight and performance.... quote]

HUH? The KTM is waay lighter with way more horsies stock. Not even close. Compare the specs on their website. The KLR weighs 50 lbs less but about 10 less horses. I do agree the BP is way better looking.


Not to split hairs so give me a little leeway....... the 640LC4 (150 KG dry) weighs 366 lbs wet. and puts out 53 hp, not sure If thats rear wheel hp though.
the Baggy with pipe and carb jetting dynos at 52 rear tire... and weighs somewhere between 366 and 380 (after a ton of crap pulled off (biggest weight loss is the pipe and cat converter etc.) I will take it to my new found pals in Tacoma to weigh it as she sits....
From my experience there is nothing like the MZ's... If you want to mod the snot out of the engine and bike etc add a couple grand ($ 5500.00 plus 2 k) which now gets close to a stock KTM price wise and still be more reliable, not to mention alot faster........If I did it again I would choose the big baggy in a heart beat........I won't carry on because I'm repeating myself here, other posts on the same topic....... If I raced prolly go Italian Wink If I see a big Katoom on the street I will drag race him !! as far as corners he's done before he starts Twisted Evil

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mham001



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here's a pic of my Black panther, and Brians Silver Street moto..[/quote]

Where did you get that windscreen and what wattage bulbs will it take?



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Brian



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a Acerbis Cyclops headlamp assembly... I'm gonn order one soon.... but you cannot keep the stock speedo.... no room......
www.acerbis.com
I think around $ 100.00 Phlat will confirm.... wattage 50 ?

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keithcross



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One other thing on the Baghira verses other SM's, the service costs on KTM's are horredous, oil chande every 1500 miles. Not a lot of good when you use your bike every day for work and for fun at weekends.

Keith

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

keithcross wrote:
One other thing on the Baghira verses other SM's, the service costs on KTM's are horredous, oil chande every 1500 miles. Not a lot of good when you use your bike every day for work and for fun at weekends.
Keith


Exactly why I sold my XR-loved it to bits, but it was unsuitable for what I wanted it to do sometimes (120 mile a day commute). I have a GSX 1100 i use to commute on, but can see the MZ taking over whjen the weather is OK.

No money to do the pipe until next month though-will have to stay with the breadbin for now.

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