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Fil
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 Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:02 am Post subject: Removing the carbs??? |
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Is it possible to remove the carbs without having to remove the subframe on a Baggy/Mastiff?
My bike's been laid up for a while and it stalls if I open the throttle past idle, so I need to investigate further.... |
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F0ul_Oli
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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ur better off working on it without taking it off first.
Carbs are such a pain to set up off the bike - especially when you find out the problem could have been fixed with the carb in place!!
You might only have to take the top off and replace the diafram.
(I hate working on carbs!!)
F0ul Oli
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keithcross
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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You can get the carbs off of a Baghira without removing the sub frame. Its a right pig of a job as they are so tight in the frame.
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DEmark
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Collapse the carb to airbox rubber booties and pull them into the airbox, then you will have some room to remove the carbs... |
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phlat65
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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I have not done this on the baggy yet, but on my dirtbike, I remove the lower subframe bolts, loosen the upper bolt, and pivot the whole thing up, including the airbox.
you may have to only remove the seat and side panels, then disconnect the exhaust to do this.
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cat
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| phlat65 wrote: | I have not done this on the baggy yet, but on my dirtbike, I remove the lower subframe bolts, loosen the upper bolt, and pivot the whole thing up, including the airbox.
you may have to only remove the seat and side panels, then disconnect the exhaust to do this. |
mm. it sounds like it would be easier to remove the subframe - if this way of yours doesn't work.
on my KDX i struggled - big-time to get the airbox out; next time i'll try loosening the subframe. |
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Fil
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the tips guys!
I managed to get the carbs off by undoing the rubber/metal carb mounts (stubs? - not sure what you call them!) where they bolt to the engine, draining the water & removing the water pipe elbow that attaches to the RHS of the head, then pulling the carbs out from the RHS of the bike. To be honest, I wouldn't try doing that again as two of the the bolts holding the carbs to the head are almost impossible to get at.
I took the carbs to bits on the bench, and the float bowl on the left hand carb was so gummed up that the hole in the bottom of the main jet was completly blocked.... It's all cleaned up now, and I'm going to try and put them back on tonight. |
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cat
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:24 am Post subject: |
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| Fil wrote: | Thanks for the tips guys!
I managed to get the carbs off by undoing the rubber/metal carb mounts (stubs? - not sure what you call them!) where they bolt to the engine, draining the water & removing the water pipe elbow that attaches to the RHS of the head, then pulling the carbs out from the RHS of the bike. To be honest, I wouldn't try doing that again as two of the the bolts holding the carbs to the head are almost impossible to get at.
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so do you think it would have been easier to do it phlat's way, from the back? |
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Fil
Joined: 22 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Man, it's not easy trying to get the carbs on and off one these bikes!! I think the biggest problem (apart from lack of space) is that it is very hard to pull the carbs out of the rubber inlet stubs that attach to the head. Thankfully it is easier to get them back on again! I managed to do the whole operation with the subframe in place, but in hindsight I think I would recommend taking off the subframe to remove them. Unless you are a gynaecologist with masochistic tendencies and hands like monkey paws...
The upside is that it seems to be running fine now, so it was worth is in the end. Just wish I'd put a stage one kit in the carbs whilst they were off the bike  |
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cat
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| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:18 am Post subject: |
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| Fil wrote: | | Man, it's not easy trying to get the carbs on and off one these bikes!! I think the biggest problem (apart from lack of space) is that it is very hard to pull the carbs out of the rubber inlet stubs that attach to the head. |
put a film of grease on them - water-resistant grease, like nice blue Yamalube, or silicone spray. for next time - but it's probably too late.  |
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