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alex1206
Joined: 27 Nov 2005 Posts: 12
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:45 pm Post subject: lowering options for the baghira |
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hi
after reading all these posts about how the height reduced model has better street handaling i am questions how i can lower a regular height.
i believe the main option would be to switch out the forks and the shocks and understand this can be done for roughly 300 dollars.
how many inches will it shorten by if i go with this method? parts can be easily sourced?
the second option is switching out the rear spring. from my understanding that this is okay but will interefere with designed shock travel and may interfere with handaling?
im 5'9, 155 pounds, and i hear guys at 6' and above having troubles reading the ground with both feet. i dont want to have troubles walking pulling the bike in and out.
thanks ahead of time
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Garf
Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 92 Location: Manchester, UK.
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:52 am Post subject: |
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It is possibly a cheaper and ultimately better option to have your existing adjustable forks modified by a suspension tuner .....it is a common mod when running a crosser in supermoto trim. The standard MZ hieght reduced forks are not adjustable. The same option to modify may apply to the rear shock but I am not quite so sure about that.
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phlat65 Moderator
Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 703 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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replacing the spring in the rear shock is the wrong approach.
any good suspension shop can lower it properly, by making a spacer to limit the extended travel of both the shock and fork. the nice thing about this method, you end up with a HR with adjustable forks.
also, post here, maybe someone in your area wants to do the reverse, or maybe you could sample a HR before you proceed.
of note, a full height has 280mm travel front and rear, a HR has 190mm front and rear.
also, the baghira castor angle is 130mm, and steering angle is 28mm, the Mastiff castor angle is 73mm, and steering angle is 26mm
I seem to remember hearing that the HR uses the mastiff geometry, and I cinda think so, my bike in Full height trim does handle different than the street moto I took all the suspension from. hey Dave, are the frame and tripple tree PN's the same for street moto and the Black Panther and Mastiff? _________________ 2001 MZ Black Panther
2001 Suzuki RM125 (full Enduro)
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keithcross
Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 870 Location: Hampshire England
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:09 am Post subject: |
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The triple tree are teh same. There are different part numbers in te cat, but there are applicable to all bikes, the only difference seems to be frame colour.
Keith _________________ Ride it like you stole it |
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phlat65 Moderator
Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 703 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:30 am Post subject: |
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so how do they get the drasticly different geometry? _________________ 2001 MZ Black Panther
2001 Suzuki RM125 (full Enduro)
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keithcross
Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 870 Location: Hampshire England
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:50 am Post subject: |
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I think by using shorter front forks the wheelbase is shortened, also ashorter rear shock will make the bike lower as well. Cant see any other reason for the change in geomerty. Both numbers are listed for all models, difference being the colour only as far as I can tell.
Maybe others can explain it.
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fasrnu
Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 43 Location: Xtreme SE Tennessee,USA
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Garf wrote: | It is possibly a cheaper and ultimately better option to have your existing adjustable forks modified by a suspension tuner .....it is a common mod when running a crosser in supermoto trim. The standard MZ hieght reduced forks are not adjustable. The same option to modify may apply to the rear shock but I am not quite so sure about that.
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I am planning to build a dogbone of a different length to lower the rear about 2 inches. I may just slide the forks up thru the trees a couple inches also. This has worked quite well for me on other bikes I have owned. A note of caution: this will make your off-roading a bit more difficult because of the suspension travel issue. I only occasionally ride off road and then only on fire trails. 90% of my riding is paved twisties.....Yeehah!!! YMMV
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