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Daris Pakar
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 Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:12 pm Post subject: Off Road with Street Moto ? |
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Anyone grabbing air with a Street Moto ?
Creek Crossings ?
Hill Climbing ?
Sand Duning ?
Snow Running ?
Stair Climbing ?
Best Tire choice for the above and still handle wet pavement ? |
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keithcross
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Location: Hampshire England
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| Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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I use my baggi SM for off road occasionally. Best tyres to date for off road and wet roads are Avon Pro etreme rain tyres. Maxix intermediates are meant to be good as well. Touble is both types of tyre wear out real quick, I only managed just under 1000 miles on a rear Avon rain tyre. Avon also make Distanzas specifically for motards. I am curently just about to change the rear after 3500 miles +. They seem to give good grip on teh road, wet of dry and are chunky enough to give fair grip off road.
Keith
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Brian
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| Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Stick with the Avon rains or Pirelli rains are excellent as well.... The Distanzias are a great dry tire and ok for off road............
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keithcross
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| Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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I actually have a Avon rain on the front and a distanza on the rear. This make a pretty good combination. Loads of grip on the front and reasonable wear on the rear.
I have no complaints about the distanza rear, ok not quite as much grip in the wet, but I found the rain tyre on the rear gave a strange feeling in the dry after a few miles.
Both tyres are OK off road with my limited off road ability.
Keith
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phlat65
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| Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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I will launch my baggy out of loading docks. Brian is a witness....
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DAVID THOMPSON
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Location: Parkersburg, West Virginia usa .You know the PARTS have been SHIPPED when the MAIL MAN knocks
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:25 am Post subject: thinking out loud again |
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thinking out loud again
Anyone grabbing air with a Street Moto ?
AT MY AGE GASPING FOR AIR IS MORE LIKE IT
Creek Crossings ?
BEST DONE IN A BOAT IT FLOODS TO MUCH HERE
Hill Climbing ?
WE DO THAT ANY TIME WE GO SOMEWHERE HERE IN WV
Sand Duning ?
DONE IN CA
Snow Running ?
DONE IN CANADA WITH A SNOWPLOW
Stair Climbing ? WHAT I DO AFTER I PUT THE BIKE TO BED IN THE BASEMENT
Best Tire choice for the above and still handle wet pavement ?
WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD THAT DOESNT MAKE YOU FALL DOWN
ALL IN JEST OF COURSE
AR DAVE 
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Daris Pakar
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:27 am Post subject: |
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| phlat65 wrote: | | I will launch my baggy out of loading docks. Brian is a witness.... |
Did you hear any "Bad Sounds" on touchdown ?
Did you bend or break anything ?
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Daris Pakar
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:34 am Post subject: Re: thinking out loud again |
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| DAVID THOMPSON wrote: | thinking out loud again
Anyone grabbing air with a Street Moto ?
AT MY AGE GASPING FOR AIR IS MORE LIKE IT
Creek Crossings ?
BEST DONE IN A BOAT IT FLOODS TO MUCH HERE
Hill Climbing ?
WE DO THAT ANY TIME WE GO SOMEWHERE HERE IN WV
Sand Duning ?
DONE IN CA
Snow Running ?
DONE IN CANADA WITH A SNOWPLOW
Stair Climbing ? WHAT I DO AFTER I PUT THE BIKE TO BED IN THE BASEMENT
Best Tire choice for the above and still handle wet pavement ?
WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD THAT DOESNT MAKE YOU FALL DOWN
ALL IN JEST OF COURSE
AR DAVE |
I'm glad I didn't ask about gas ? 
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DEmark
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:56 am Post subject: |
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| Everytime I grab air with my Baghira Enduro I come home with broken spokes. I had it on a loading dock once, I rode it down the stairs, launching it off the dock surely would have broke spokes... |
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phlat65
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no noises, no broken spokes, it does bottom easily though. the jump is top of 2nd, 4-5 ft lip, I am probably clearing 40ft or so.
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Brian
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Phlat will attempt to jump "anything"  I go half as high and half as far on my MZ, I feel more comfortable jumping my KX. My MZ bottoms out a bit as well but its not bone jarring....The problem with urban jumps on our tracks is that we like 18-22 psi in the tires for fast heat up and max tire contact but when you hit these jumps even on my KX with my 230 lbs I can feel the tires squatt and the wheel is getting close to hitting hard.....Phlat mentioned the speed he is going, when he lands the forward motion (I think) takes alot of the downward energy away, I truly think different than jumping off a loading dock at a slower speeds......... 
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Daris Pakar
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| Brian wrote: | | Phlat will attempt to jump "anything" I go half as high and half as far on my MZ, I feel more comfortable jumping my KX. My MZ bottoms out a bit as well but its not bone jarring....The problem with urban jumps on our tracks is that we like 18-22 psi in the tires for fast heat up and max tire contact but when you hit these jumps even on my KX with my 230 lbs I can feel the tires squatt and the wheel is getting close to hitting hard.....Phlat mentioned the speed he is going, when he lands the forward motion (I think) takes alot of the downward energy away, I truly think different than jumping off a loading dock at a slower speeds......... |
A good ridding buddy is hard to find.....but once found ....watch out !!!
Thanks Brian and Phlat,
Great Info from two differnt riders on two similar bikes.
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AtomicSpew
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 3:48 pm Post subject: How 'bout more answers re: Off Road use? |
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I'd like to hear more answers about how the Street Moto does on dirt trails/roads/fire roads?  I'll be about 75-80% street, but WILL need to go offroad occiasionally for mostly dry and semi-loose conditions. Would expect to get 21/18 tires/wheels set-up for more serious off-road work.
What kind of experience with this do we have on the board?
Appreciate everybody's answers...
A.S. |
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kerry
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:37 am Post subject: off road with a Bagghi |
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| I have the (tall ) enduro Bagghi, and the first year I had it,I did a LOT of off road with it. I went places I shoudn't have, and I always made it back out! I am 6' 3" tall and have a 33" inseam, and I must say that there were times, on some side hill "goat path" single track, that my ass was puckering! ........my only other complaint was that the bike is a tad over weight, but that can be overcome if you are an experienced rider. In summary, I would say that the bagghi is very capable as an occasional off road bike, but you best be tall, and you best be a strong experienced rider. |
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gedge
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I have been offroad with my Baggy SM.. It kept up with some KTM race SMs and also a yz250 crosser... Bike was actually pretty nimble but I was a bit wary about damaging the plastics as they arent as cheap as other Off road bikes 
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