Raptor carbs (again)

[irishnutjars]

Any one got any more information on fitting these to a baghira? Seem to be a reasonable price to pick up a pair.

I remember reading someone did it but no more info other than that it worked & very well! I presume I would need rubber boots also from raptor both from airbox and to head? Is it a major job? Would I need to rejet them? Am I crazy?

Thanks!

[CM]

The raptor carbs fit!

You need a different connection from airbox to carb, because the raptor carb is shorter than the original teikei.


If you can understand german oder have a good dictionary, look at www.mz-baghira.de (search for "Raptor Vergaser" or "Mikuni BST 33")

One or two guys are driving this carb.

[irishnutjars]

Thanks CM,

Tried the site- even registered but its making my head ache () translating with my exceptionally limited German & babel fish online translation!

Doesnt sound like a big job to make an extension from carb to the standard connecter, but isnt one of our standard carbs diameter smaller?

Just like to know if its worth the effort & expense for the gain. Im sure I'll get them on somehow! I have the carb & header kit from tunebike.de and would like to be able to afford the stage one kit but these look like like a more realistic option for me!

[keithcross]

Thought about fitting the complete head and carb assembly to my MZ and still might if I can get the parts for the right money. This should mean that the engine limiter could be saflly changed to one that allows the engine to rev highr as I understand the limiting factor for this is the valve gear.
Could be wrong though

Keith

[CM]

The guy who drives with the BST means that the Baghi is a lot more spontaneous.

If you need the gauges of the different manifolds I can ask him also for the size of the main jet and so on.....


I would try it with the BST 33......but I still have my nice Mikuni flat slide


Here is my little help for some german - english and english - german questions

http://dict.tu-chemnitz.de/dings.cgi?lang=de&noframes=1&service=&query=Hauptd%FCse&optword=1&optcase=1&opterrors=0&optpro=0&style=&dlink=self

Or ask in the Baghi Forum, they will help you as far as possible!

[basser23]

As I understand it, the Raptor manifold fits perfectly. Also, you'd
probably need to fabricate a battery box if you use pod filters.
I am curious about the throttle linkage set up...any thoughts?
Chip

96 Skorpion

[CM]

For the Baghi, you need a distance piece to the airbox because the carb is shorter than the original Teikei. Everything else fit.

[tuny]

so what do you get with the raptor carbs? more torque? or power? why change?

[CM]

The MZ is more spontaneous on the gas and gets more power.

I have a Mikuni flat slide, not the raptor carb.


If you need more precise infos, ask at www.mz-baghira.de ....they understand you if you write on english

[basser23]

CM,
You are running a pair of TM34's right?,not just a single...
So the linkage fits too....hmm
Chip

[CM]

The Mikuni TM34 B65 is a double carb, two 34mm carbs....

If you drive one carb you need a TM42 or something similar...maybe 41....I don´t know....

[basser23]

The tm34b65 is hard to locate here in the states, Most people who change the carbs are running Keihin FCR's 35mm(usually)and they are pricey.
I may just try the Raptor carbs .
Chip

[DEmark]

I got a question, does the Mikuni TM34 B65 have an accellerator pump? Did it fit up pretty well?

How about the Rapter carbs, do they have an accellerator pump?

[keithcross]

Looked at this parts fishe

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outdoor/parts/home.aspx

There doesent appear to be a acc pump fitled.

Keith

[CM]

Jep, TM34 has a accelerator pump. If you hold the carb in you hands and turn the gas, you can see a little fuel rey coming out of the jets in each carb.

When the Baghi is out and I turn on the gas for some times, I have problems to start her, but after a few tryings she runs again Sometimes the spark breaks in fact of too much fuel....but if you got the clue, it´s no problem....if not.....hm....


The Keihin is good too, I guess but he´s maybe a little bit too (1mm bigger than TM34) big for a normal engine. With a normal engine and the TM34B65 (it also exist a TM34B70 and bigger) is very spontaneous, maybe to spontaneous because some guys don´t like the carb on a standart motor....When he´s tuned, the carb can show his ful potencial


The Raptor carb is an impulse carb (in german "Gleichdruckvergaser") and has no accelerate pump.